Veronica Mars movie
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fannishlissI liked it!
I am a terrible, terrible Logan/Veronica shipper. My husband does not approve. He points out that Piz is a nice guy and what's wrong with nice guys??? I think to myself that Logan's damage is something that calls out to Veronica in ways she can't resist.
I feel like Logan's dedication (or not) to his military career is at the center of his character now. It's a new life that demands restraint (which Logan needs) and dedication (which I think he has). It offers him structure and purpose, whereas he has always been a flame of chaos. What will happen now that Logan has addressed so much of his damage, put himself into that white uniform, and made himself subject to different rules than the twisted rules of Neptune, which sits, as the movie acknowledges, on a hellmouth!
I loved how Logan couldn't help but call her, and then didn't make a move. The scene of him taking off her shoes. Argh, the feels.
I loved how he saw that tape at the reunion and just started a melee -- which, if the Navy finds out, would not be a good thing at all. While Wallace actually found the projector and pulled the plug.
I loved how Logan essentially became Carrie's sponsor -- which, implies that he is a person who has been through recovery and knows how to get clean.
It is really interesting to ponder what Logan has made of himself: clean, honorable, dedicated, holding his chaotic fire in check. I've always had a huge soft spot for characters like Logan -- broken, but so full of potential, so craving love and offering so much. In a way, Piz comes out ahead here. I'm sorry he got hurt... yet... I feel he will be better off without Veronica? They might have been able to build a strong companionate marriage, but I think Piz would have held up way more than half, and Veronica would secretly always be longing for the burn.
So this review looks like it is all about Logan. And it kind of is, but... it's also about what Veronica wants, because Veronica is reflected in the choice she makes -- Logan and being a PI Neptune, over Piz and being an attorney in New York. She doesn't want the safe soft option of a sweet boyfriend like Piz who writes for This American Life. (how much did we squee when we saw Ira Glass? too much) She doesn't want the glass walls of corporate law. She wants to get back in the ring. She still has so much work to do in Neptune. It's almost as though she might run for sheriff. !!! (Just saying: Supernatural specializes in women sheriffs. also, Jason Dohring was on SPN 7.12 "Time after Time". ) And I can't help but wonder how Veronica and Logan will make it work.
The movie certainly left me happily looking forward to the novel that will soon come out. Yay, I hope it is well-written.
a long time ago
we used to be friends but i
haven't thought of you lately at all
I am a terrible, terrible Logan/Veronica shipper. My husband does not approve. He points out that Piz is a nice guy and what's wrong with nice guys??? I think to myself that Logan's damage is something that calls out to Veronica in ways she can't resist.
I feel like Logan's dedication (or not) to his military career is at the center of his character now. It's a new life that demands restraint (which Logan needs) and dedication (which I think he has). It offers him structure and purpose, whereas he has always been a flame of chaos. What will happen now that Logan has addressed so much of his damage, put himself into that white uniform, and made himself subject to different rules than the twisted rules of Neptune, which sits, as the movie acknowledges, on a hellmouth!
I loved how Logan couldn't help but call her, and then didn't make a move. The scene of him taking off her shoes. Argh, the feels.
I loved how he saw that tape at the reunion and just started a melee -- which, if the Navy finds out, would not be a good thing at all. While Wallace actually found the projector and pulled the plug.
I loved how Logan essentially became Carrie's sponsor -- which, implies that he is a person who has been through recovery and knows how to get clean.
It is really interesting to ponder what Logan has made of himself: clean, honorable, dedicated, holding his chaotic fire in check. I've always had a huge soft spot for characters like Logan -- broken, but so full of potential, so craving love and offering so much. In a way, Piz comes out ahead here. I'm sorry he got hurt... yet... I feel he will be better off without Veronica? They might have been able to build a strong companionate marriage, but I think Piz would have held up way more than half, and Veronica would secretly always be longing for the burn.
So this review looks like it is all about Logan. And it kind of is, but... it's also about what Veronica wants, because Veronica is reflected in the choice she makes -- Logan and being a PI Neptune, over Piz and being an attorney in New York. She doesn't want the safe soft option of a sweet boyfriend like Piz who writes for This American Life. (how much did we squee when we saw Ira Glass? too much) She doesn't want the glass walls of corporate law. She wants to get back in the ring. She still has so much work to do in Neptune. It's almost as though she might run for sheriff. !!! (Just saying: Supernatural specializes in women sheriffs. also, Jason Dohring was on SPN 7.12 "Time after Time". ) And I can't help but wonder how Veronica and Logan will make it work.
The movie certainly left me happily looking forward to the novel that will soon come out. Yay, I hope it is well-written.
a long time ago
we used to be friends but i
haven't thought of you lately at all
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Date: 2014-03-20 02:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-03-20 12:30 pm (UTC)He is plotting, and it looks like he has a co-author.
http://www.amazon.com/Veronica-Mars-Original-Mystery-Thousand-Dollar/dp/0804170703
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Date: 2014-03-20 03:21 am (UTC)To start with the obvious: I really, really liked what they did with Logan. It was what I (probably all of us) wanted for him, to find lasting stability within himself. Which, let's be fair, Veronica was never going to be able to help him with. I wouldn't have picked the military as the place he'd go, but it makes a ton of sense that it would be the perfect source of discipline and structure that he needed to center himself, while still providing a constrained but appropriate channel for his inherent violent streak. The maturity he showed was so, so satisfying.
Navy was an interesting pick, mostly (I suspect) so that they could dress their femme fatale in all white (and, of course, the pop culture references). He's now an officer and a gentleman! Except, of course, he's always going to be Veronica's "downfall" from Upstanding Citizen to her true self, dressed all in black that she should always wear. Not subtle, maybe, but a really nice shorthand to show that he needed to grow up from what he was, and he has, and she needs to stop running away from what she is, and she does.
Except that while he's learned to have a "quiet word" with someone to take down pictures of his recently-murdered ex-girlfriend, he unhestatingly instigates a bar brawl over a decade-old sex tape of Veronica. Some things really never do change. He does have darkness in him, and Veronica needs someone with darkness in them. I mean, even before everything happened, she was best friends with Lilly Kane.
Tell your husband there is nothing wrong with nice guys! I love Piz, and I think the best thing for him is to get that clean break from Veronica. She's the bad boy who tries, but ultimately doesn't want to be reformed by the good girl, and we all know what kind of drawn-out slide into misery is in store for the good girl who hangs on in that circumstance. I'm glad he got free, and I hope he can find someone who appreciates everything he brings to the table. Veronica loved those things for what they represented, for the type of person it made her to be in that relationship, and she loved Piz for being that person for her, but she didn't love Piz for who he was in those things.
I think maybe one of the reasons it's easier to talk about Veronica through the lens of her interactions with other characters (especially love interests) is because she's always, on some level, lying to herself. She's a quintessential unreliable narrator, always constructing a narrative that grants her more control of herself, her situation, and the world, than she actually has. It's the characters she casts in her opposing roles (love interest, nemesis), and the people who actually end up in those places are the easiest truths for us to get an angle on.
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Date: 2014-04-06 12:05 am (UTC)I have the Veronica Mars novel now, and am enjoying the fanfic that is trickling in over at AO3. I loved what they did with Logan, and I wonder how it will transpire and if Rob Thomas can keep the novels coming along!
Veronica is a really interesting, complicated character. I like watching her get in over her head and somehow doggie paddle to shore every time. She is really strong and really breakable and human.
The whole thing with dumping Piz without realizing she was dumping him, the gracelessness with which she did that -- really endeared me to her. :)