please don't go!

[fannishliss]

This exodus from Livejournal is bothering me. :(

I've noticed in the past week that service interruptions have gone way down.  I think lj has done a pretty good job in responding to the attacks.  It's still a bit jumpy, but I can't bear to think about leaving my lj behind.  :(

There's one big difference between LJ and an archive.  LJ is primarily a journal, with the capacity to incorporate large hunks of writing or links to other types of work.  How are vidders responding?  LJ lets us get at least a glimpse into one another's lives.  It's a huge step forward from the old days of listservs.  Dudes, I was a lurker for well over a decade.  It was only LJ that brought me out of that -- the way it invite comments and helps you to form relationships as you learn about other people through their postings. 

I fear change, so maybe that's why I haven't gone over to DW...  it seems to work okay for my very tech savvy friends.  it took me forever to figure out Lj, how to post and where to post, not that i'm even that great at it, but picking up how to work in a new environment is too daunting.  i just don't have time for that right now.

another writer that I follow is closing her journal. D:  I need an AO3 invite because apparently the queue is pretty slow -- if anyone happens to have an invite I'd be very grateful.  *hopeful look*

Comments

[zagzagael.livejournal.com]

I really really really agree. And I think those folks who are leaving this party will end up being sorry and trying to figure out how to get back and rebuild their flists.

I'm at A03 - it's archive only - no discussion. Are you wanting to archive your fics then? I don't have a code, they seem to release two a year. I'll look into it for you if you don't get one today!

[fannishliss.livejournal.com]

No organization is perfect and surely LJ goes awry sometimes with its policies and whatnot... but it has served fandom better than the previous tries..... the move to DW has been less than satisfactory, but some of that might also be due to people downloading their fic to read offline on portable devices....

Idk. I'm more interested in following my friends' work on AO3 than archiving their myself. I'm fairly religious about my flist and read about 90% of what my flisters post even if I don't have a comment. I know a lot about your mules and your ink and your interior decorating ideas and your area snowfalls and your love for ASL!!! which makes me very happy in my introverted yet hopefully friendly way. Dolls confuse me though!! :P (it's because I'm not primarily a visual thinker maybe)

thanks for responding!!

[elliemurasaki.livejournal.com]

To what email do you wish me to send the invite? Also, AO3 has a comment function, so there could be discussion.

[fannishliss.livejournal.com]

thanks so very much. How sweet of you to come to my aid!! I am at fannishliss at gmail dot com.

Do you think LJ and DW are equivalent? One of my friends over there, somnolentblue, manages very well and likes a lot of features. But it took me so long to find my comms here.... sigh.

[zagzagael.livejournal.com]

I respectfully disagree with the sentiment that there "could" be discussion on Ao3. There just is not. At all. And now that they've added the "kudos" option, comments on fics have dropped off considerably. Readers are just not going to use that site for discussion. LJ is really the place for any sort of commenting - on fic or in personal posts.

[runedgirl.livejournal.com]

I so agree!! I'm not at all tech savvy, LJ took me forever to get mostly figured out, and I'm too damn busy to go learn something brand new -- but I hate when people leave here! I still miss some folks who aren't 'around' anymore, so that I never see their posts or read their fic or comment on their comments. Ack! And yes, I also hate change :/

*smishes you*

[fannishliss.livejournal.com]

I'm just trying to sign on to AO3 in order to get notifications when people post there... but I am very scrupulous about my flist so it makes me nervous to think about signing on in new places as well. o_O

smishes back!

[ciaan]

I can send you an invite code. Which email?

[fannishliss.livejournal.com]

thanks very much! you are so kind. mercuryblue beat you to it! :)

[ciaan]

:)

[delta-mai.livejournal.com]

THANK you. I have no idea why people are leaving - sure I'm worried about losing my old entries, but the whole point of a journal is to socialise and post new entries. Plus to stand by our LJ!

Good to know you're staying :D I'd miss your awesome SPN fanishness!

[fannishliss.livejournal.com]

thanks so much for your kind comment.

I think people are really afraid their fic will go down in flames. I always keep a copy on my hard drive, so I'm not afraid of that.... I'm afraid of losing touch with my flisters, whose posts are so amazing, entertaining, and inspiring. This is my social networking site, so socially, it's my place to be!

I'll stay as long as I can make it work. I did have some problems posting that first week, but it's gotten much, much better recently. I literally lurked for about fifteen years on listservs (I started out as an XFiles fan), and it was only the lj format that required me to get an identity and finally commit to joining in. So I kind of OWE lj for that, in the best way.

:D

[delta-mai.livejournal.com]

Well if they didn't write it on word then copy it across to LJ then they kinda deserve to lose it :P

ITA - the whole point of LJ for me is the discussion! There'd be no point posting my every thought if people didn't comment on it :P

I'm so glad you stopped lurking! :D Your posts are great. Especially that SPN song - incredible!

[fannishliss.livejournal.com]

I'm glad you enjoy my posts and song! -- thanks!

[tifaching.livejournal.com]

I'm on AO3 and Dreamwidth both just to have my fics backed up somewhere in case LJ does ever get hacked to death. My posts and fics (well, maybe not my fics because it's so easy to post at Dreamwidth first and automatically cross post it here) will stay mainly on LJ.

When I saw LL was closing her journal, I freaked a little. I'm so used to just going to her home page and finding what I wanted right there.

I'm sure you can do a masterpost at AO3, but I haven't even got most of my fic switched over. I'm trying to import my LJ to Dreamwidth, but it hasn't worked yet. In short, I'll still be on LJ and I hope too many other people won't leave completely.

[fannishliss.livejournal.com]

It's the dilution you know... people trickling here and there. I find it tricky to navigate on DW... if we all end up there I guess I'll figure it out... but yeah, it was LL's post that tipped me over, I was all like /o\ dnw!!!

At least there's a new spn ep coming and I'm gonna squee my heart out! Oh, and buy a TV Guide asap! :D

[fannishliss.livejournal.com]

I hope your computer is now doing well! I missed you! :)

[roguebitch.livejournal.com]

I have a permanent paid account, so I'm not going anywhere, and I haven't written enough I think to warrant an AO3 invite, anyhow. I'm migrating my stuff to DW because I think a backup is a good idea.

[fannishliss.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I hear that DW has a pretty useful import. I'm glad you are still around!

[franzeska]

*wanders by from blogsearching*

Journals are fun, but I've just been waiting around until an archive I liked well enough came along. For me, the whole LJ era is kind of a blip between my early experiences with archives, usenet, and lists and a new era of archives and me re-joining lots of lists.

I hate seeing people scatter too, but it's happened so many times to me already. Every time there's an exodus from FFN (and there have been hundreds), there's discussion about what the fragmentation will do to fandom. I suspect that many people who came into fandom when LJ was already big will always come back to LJ or LJ-like sites, just like I'll always have a hankering for large, multifandom archives. It's upsetting when specific people leave, I know, but I don't think everybody is going to flee and leave you all alone on LJ. :) If people are going now, I suspect the attacks are just a catalyst for a change that was already in the works for a long time.

AO3 does allow embeds of video or graphics, though it's not exactly great for vids yet, IMO. Just for me personally, it's easier to post fic or vids there because I don't feel like I'm imposing on my flist or demanding comments on something in a fandom they're not interested in. Anybody who finds my work on an archive is actively looking. It's also easier for me to post more controversial things or things that embarrass me there because it's more removed from RL posts. I feel like there's a little bit of emotional distance.

[fannishliss.livejournal.com]

Hi Franzeska, I appreciate your comments. I am an old lurker -- since maybe 1995? -- and LJ brought me out of my shell. I'd hate to go back in .... but I guess I will go to DW before that happens. :)

Are you the Francesca I loved in Sentinel fandom? :)

[franzeska]

Alas, no. I was a lurker too back then. I got my start writing in anime fandoms later on. If I had to guess, I'd say you're probably thinking of Speranza, who is most definitely still around, but who is also most definitely not me. :D

[fannishliss.livejournal.com]

thanks for the link, it is she :)

please feel free to poke around in my journal if you are curious. :)

[franzeska]

And FWIW, DW is a code fork, so, while it looks different and confusing at first, most things work exactly the same way as LJ. (Though there are so many more people on LJ still that I don't think you'll "have" to move any time soon. :P)